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Dat hele New Normal gebeuren was dan ook voornamelijk een marketing ding.
Ik heb overigens wel festivals meegemaakt in het verleden waar de uiting van commercie zeker stoorde (Wetware Douban, North Sea Jazz), dus dat afsluiten lukt niet altijd.
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Into the Void in Leeuwarden doet een kickstartertje: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pau...-and-black
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24-10-2019, 11:39
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Krezip:
…Breaking News…Vanavond, tijdens onze eerste uitverkochte Ziggo Dome show, hebben we groot nieuws voor je…#dachtjedatditalleswas https://t.co/uJo9HahlIy
Met een klok op hun website. "Soldaat van Oranje" moves dit?
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(24-10-2019, 11:39)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Krezip:
…Breaking News…Vanavond, tijdens onze eerste uitverkochte Ziggo Dome show, hebben we groot nieuws voor je…#dachtjedatditalleswas https://t.co/uJo9HahlIy
Met een klok op hun website. "Soldaat van Oranje" moves dit? En en en?
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(25-10-2019, 09:07)Wailer Wrote: (24-10-2019, 11:39)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Krezip:
…Breaking News…Vanavond, tijdens onze eerste uitverkochte Ziggo Dome show, hebben we groot nieuws voor je…#dachtjedatditalleswas https://t.co/uJo9HahlIy
Met een klok op hun website. "Soldaat van Oranje" moves dit? En en en? Nieuw album, maar dan zal die zaalshow tour wel snel volgen.
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(25-10-2019, 09:34)Indiaantje89 Wrote: (25-10-2019, 09:07)Wailer Wrote: (24-10-2019, 11:39)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Krezip:
…Breaking News…Vanavond, tijdens onze eerste uitverkochte Ziggo Dome show, hebben we groot nieuws voor je…#dachtjedatditalleswas https://t.co/uJo9HahlIy
Met een klok op hun website. "Soldaat van Oranje" moves dit? En en en? Nieuw album, maar dan zal die zaalshow tour wel snel volgen. Ter aanvulling. Album gisteren dus al gelanceerd. Best knap dat ze dit stil hebben weten te houden. Lijkt dus inderdaad op een volledige comeback, tour zal dus ook snel volgen.
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Ondertussen is de drill scene uit Chicago en Londen naar Nederland overgewaaid, https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/10/26/voo...10/26/#108
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https://www.billboard.com/articles/busin...MusicREDEF
Quote:How Tegan and Sara Defeated Scalpers & Embraced Their Fans With 'Rush Seating' Concept
The new concept allows fans priced out by the secondary market another chance to see the band at its run of underplay shows.
Since Sept. 27, Tegan and Sara have provided their fans with a thoughtful memoir about their time in high school; a new record full of songs written in those formative years; and a tour of underplay shows to promote both that has introduced a new concept: “rush seating.”
Coined by the twin sisters and their team, the “rush seating” experiment began as a response to the group’s sold-out show at the Balboa Theatre in San Diego on Sept. 30 -- at which they showed up to play for a significantly empty room. Resellers had gobbled up large amounts of inventory for the tour, which went on sale in July, that had the effect of significantly raising the ticket price from the original price of around $40.
“We have seen Tegan and Sara’s tickets show up on the secondary over the years, but never in these types of volumes,” says the group’s co-manager Nick Blasko.
The issue continued the next night. For Tegan and Sara’s San Francisco show on Oct. 1, the duo found more than 200 tickets on StubHub. So, six hours prior to the show, the group asked fans to show up at the 1,600-capacity Sydney Goldstein Theater to be seated on a first-come, first-served basis. Rather than selling the ticket again, fans would be granted seats in return for “pay what you can donations” to the Tegan and Sara Foundation.
Through coordination with venue staff, Tegan and Sara’s team eyeballed open seats and filled them with fans lined up at the door. If a ticket holder arrived late, ‘rush seaters’ were moved to another available option.
“What makes this thing so awesome is that we are trading a donation for a little ticket stub that we’ve made which says ‘rush seating.’ It’s a little stub that helps identity them to the ushers and it is something for the fan to keep,” says Blasko, who explains that DIY spirit of the experiment has led to them collecting the donations in random boxes -- even Tegan and Sara fanny packs pulled from the merch table -- as rush seating was introduced to additional shows in Seattle, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and Winnipeg.
Donations varied from a couple of dollars to contributions of $125 to the Foundation, which fights for economic justice, health and representation for LGBTQ girls and women. With roughly 40 rush seats available at the Oct. 5 show at The Vogue Theater in Vancouver, the Foundation received $500 in donations.
"The third night of the tour we played to hundreds of empty seats in San Diego," Tegan Quin said in a statement to Billboard. "It was devastating. And not just for us. All those fans who had written desperately after the show sold out had missed seeing this performance for no good reason. The idea to do rush seating came from [Blasko] that night. In return for a donation to our Foundation fans could line up last minute and fill those empty seats. We'd combat the scalpers, fill the theaters with die-hard fans and raise money for women and girls in the LGBTQ community. For the fans it was a relief, a second chance to see the show. For our team it was a solution to a terrible situation. It allowed us to fill seats and raise money and hopefully inspire other bands in a similar situation to think about new ways to tackle the problem.”
The announcement of additional shows has left brokers on the secondary market at a loss, with the tickets they scooped up for $40 or more now going for $6 or less on StubHub.
“When we heard about the last-minute offer to enter the show at a price determined by the fan, we reached out to Tegan and Sara, as we consistently do with other artists to help them identify improved distribution solutions,” StubHub’s head of music business development Jay Harren tells Billboard. “While we weren’t able to come to a solution in this case, StubHub frequently works with artists and their teams to alleviate on-sale issues and ensure their fans get in the seats.”
"For us, this experience still remains a sad mark on an otherwise magical release and special show," Tegan continued. "We can't help but still see some empty chairs that we know could be filled with real fans every night. We believe we have a serious issue in our industry and that people on every level are complicit, and it's hard to shake the sensation that you're a pawn in a game that you'll never win."
Other artists’ teams have reached out to Blasko to let him know the experiment has not gone unnoticed.
“We are such a small piece of the business. We are beta testing a new dynamic for these tickets and it sort of totally undermines [the secondary market’s] value proposition, but us alone won’t tip this,” says Blasko. “There’s a lot of misinformation and lack of transparency [in the secondary market] and all of these things are adding up to a frustrated consumer in many cases. In the case of our organization and Tegan and Sara coming up with a solution, it falls on a very willing and supportive group of ears in the fan community.”
Tegan and Sara have recently announced another slate of shows that will implement rush seating for their Hey, I’m Just Like You Tour that runs through Nov. 1. Blasko says they have already cleared the rush seating with promoters and venues across the remainder of the trek and started educating staff on how to best implement the policy going forward.
“When we devised the plan, it was really about what serves Tegan and Sara’s needs and their fan’s needs first and foremost,” says Blasko. “The simple answer to that was, ‘Let’s get them into the shows. If there’s an empty seat, let’s put someone in it.’ We needed to get a few shows under our belts to really see if it was going to work. It absolutely works.”
Interessant concept, kan een win-win worden voor zowel artiesten (extra kassa en geen lege plekken in de zaal) alsmede voor de bezoekers (want goedkopere last-minute tickets).
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Headliner op Coachella dus?
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Daar lijkt het op ja.
Schijnt steeds meer bevestigd te worden her en der. Nou daar hebben we de gedroomde Pinkpop/Werchter headliner dan?
Al vraag ik me af hoe tof ze nog zijn anno 2019.
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Confirmed: Rage Against the Machine will reunite in 2020
The band will headline Coachella and play a trio of shows along the Mexican border
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Aha, dus dáár is het wachten op bij Pinkpop.
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01-11-2019, 19:47
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En natuurlijk zullen deze antikapitalisten daarvoor rijkelijk worden beloond. Anno 2020 is er natuurlijk weer eens behoefte aan een stevig tegengeluid (wederom zonder nieuwe nummers ga ik van uit).
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Ik ben trouwens benieuwd of ze overal zullen cashen spelen, of alleen maar op de plekken met de grootste politieke shitshows.
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Quote:Would be surprised to see RATM in Europe next summer, maybe later in August? Most of festivals budgets for June / July are spent, and RATM will be the most expensive act out next year. Obviously this reunion thing came as a surprise to everyone, only 3-4 weeks ago Prophets of Rage was still looking for shows in Europe, then all of a sudden they were out, and B Real comes out and says band is breaking up. Meaning RATM coming back was a very unexpected thing and came from Zach. Its obviously super political, the only announced shows are close to Mexican border / wall, and all in states with major latino population. Also in a year of new US election. So it could be the band only plays USA next year.
Very interesting all together, they would be a sure thing for RAR / RIP and Download, but those fests booked headliners before RATM became a possibility. We will see....
https://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/topi...nt-5805453
Ik zou ze nog wel eens willen zien, de reunie in 2008 bij Pinkpop was perfect. Loeihard geluid, strakke set en ouderwets publiek die tot ver achter de toren los gingen.
Nu leven we in andere tijden, is publiek doods, en vraag me af of dit nog wel aanslaat bij Pinkpop of Werchter. Op Hellfest, of Graspop, RAR zie ik dit nog wel slagen.
Kijk naar de beelden van POR op Pinkpop en dan dat apatische publiek. Pijnlijk gewoon....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioH_Aymc1Bk
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(01-11-2019, 17:49)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Al vraag ik me af hoe tof ze nog zijn anno 2019.
Heb je POR niet gezien dan? Zo heel veel verschillend zal dat nu ook weer niet zijn. Je moet er alleen de Public Enemy/Cypress Hill covers uit wegdenken.
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En qua publiek valt het denk ik wel mee, als je ziet hoe het op SOAD losging. Ik zekf ben denk ik eerder voor POR dan RATM, omdat Chuck D nou eenmaal een grote held van mij is. Nu genoeg afkortingen gebruikt 
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(02-11-2019, 14:23)mattman Wrote: (01-11-2019, 17:49)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Al vraag ik me af hoe tof ze nog zijn anno 2019.
Heb je POR niet gezien dan? Zo heel veel verschillend zal dat nu ook weer niet zijn. Je moet er alleen de Public Enemy/Cypress Hill covers uit wegdenken. Jawel, had weinig verwachtingen bij POR, maar dat viel me alles mee. Vraag me af of ze nog de passie en rebellie van toen in zich hebben.
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(02-11-2019, 14:23)mattman Wrote: (01-11-2019, 17:49)Indiaantje89 Wrote: Al vraag ik me af hoe tof ze nog zijn anno 2019.
Heb je POR niet gezien dan? Zo heel veel verschillend zal dat nu ook weer niet zijn. Je moet er alleen de Public Enemy/Cypress Hill covers uit wegdenken. En Zac er bij.POR was ok. Maar RATM 2008 sportpaleis was INSANE!
Zac zijn stem werkt ook gewoon beter bij die nummers
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Ibeyi speelt volgende week drie concerten met het Metroploe orkest: Website Metropole.
Vrijdag 8 november in Den Bosch (met eerst Colin Benders)
Zaterdag 9 november in Groningen (onderdeel van een festival)
Zondag 10 november in Hilversum (aparte middag sessie).
Heel keuk allemaal, maar op de een of andere manier ben ik er pas deze week achtergekomen, dus weinig tijd om te beslissen. Die zondag klinkt het handigst, maar ik ga de woensdag erna ook al naar Björk.
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http://www.brooklynvegan.com/drake-booed...-gnaw-set/
Quote:Drake was the surprise headliner at Tyler the Creator’s Camp Flog Gnaw Carnival in LA this past weekend, and he was booed and ended his set early. Normally you would think Drake is a pretty amazing surprise headliner to get at a mostly-hip hop festival, but rumors had been circulating that the headliner would be Tyler’s longtime associate Frank Ocean, who has been rolling out new music lately and hasn’t played live in two years, and Drake bore the brunt of the crowd’s disappointment that he was not Frank Ocean.
When Drake first hit the stage, the crowd did seem excited for him, but things appeared to go downhill from there. In a video clip that’s been circulating from later in the set, Drake can be heard saying to the crowd, “Like I said, I’m here for you. If you want me to keep going, I’ll keep going.” People booed and yelled “no!” in response, so Drake said “It’s been love. I go by the name of Drake, thank you for having me,” and left the stage. After he left, the crowd started a chant of “We want Frank.”
Niet zo handig van het festival om de Frank Ocean geruchten niet te verwerpen, zulke dingen gaan een eigen leven leiden en zijn nooit eerlijk voor de daadwerkelijke verrassingsacts. Doet mij denken aan het Despacio debakel van BKS 2018.
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Au! Dat is wel erg onbeschoft (en inderdasd niet handig van de organisatie).
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Wat een complete onzin ook. Alsof zo'n hype ook maar even om de muziek heeft gedraaid.
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